Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

03/31/2008 05:00 PM House RULES


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HB 207 STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS
Moved CSHB 207(RLS) Out of Committee
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HB 207-STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:06:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO.  207, "An Act  relating to  questionnaires and                                                               
surveys  administered  in  the  public  schools."    [Before  the                                                               
committee is CSHB 207(JUD).]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SAMUELS  moved to  adopt  CSHB  207, Version  25-                                                               
LS0680\O,  Mischel,  3/26/08, as  the  working  document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version O was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:06:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  said that although  he has struggled with  HB 207,                                                               
he  has  been persuaded  to  bring  it  forward.   He  questioned                                                               
whether  the  school districts  should  have  the presumption  to                                                               
perform surveys or should the parents have the presumption that                                                                 
the school districts can't perform surveys without parental                                                                     
permission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PEGGY WILSON, Alaska State Legislature, speaking                                                                 
as the sponsor of HB 207, provided the following testimony:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  207  will   change  the  parental  consent                                                                    
     requirements  for  anonymous  surveys in  schools  from                                                                    
     active to passive.  With  passive consent we believe we                                                                    
     get  good representative  samples  that  can serve  two                                                                    
     very important  functions.  One, identify  behaviors in                                                                    
     youth,   both  positive   and  negative.     And   two,                                                                    
     understand   the   effectiveness    of   solutions   to                                                                    
     previously identified issues and  behaviors.  This data                                                                    
     helps policy  makers, educators, program  planners, and                                                                    
     parents  to  better  understand  the  important  health                                                                    
     issues  and social  issues that  affect young  people's                                                                    
     chances for success.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Routine standardized  surveys such as the  national and                                                                    
     state  Youth Risk  Behavior Survey  or  YRBS, which  is                                                                    
     conducted  by the  Centers for  Disease Control  (CDC),                                                                    
     track trends  over time  and they  do it  nationwide in                                                                    
     all  states.    They   also  help  guide  and  evaluate                                                                    
     important  health and  prevention  programs. State  and                                                                    
     federal  grant  programs  that rely  on  these  surveys                                                                    
     include   tobacco  prevention   and  control,   obesity                                                                    
     prevention, diabetes,  heart disease, stroke,  safe and                                                                    
     drug   free   schools,   and  other   substance   abuse                                                                    
     prevention, injury  prevention, including  violence and                                                                    
     suicide prevention, [human  immunodeficiency virus] HIV                                                                    
     and [sexually transmitted  disease] STD prevention, and                                                                    
     more.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  school-based surveys  continue  to  be a  reliable                                                                    
     method   for    gathering   valuable   population-based                                                                    
     information  on  youth.   The  current  active  consent                                                                    
     overburdens   the  school   system  and   significantly                                                                    
     increases  the  costs  involved in  conducting  student                                                                    
     surveys.   For  instance,  in  Anchorage schools,  they                                                                    
     spend $70,000 a year trying  to get enough kids to come                                                                    
     and enough  parents to come.   They give  pizza parties                                                                    
     and everything else  to try to lure them  to the school                                                                    
     so  that  they can  get  parents  to sign  the  consent                                                                    
     forms.   It is  estimated that over  80 percent  of the                                                                    
     parents  who  do  not  return  written  permission  for                                                                    
     participation  in surveys  is not  because they  do not                                                                    
     want  their  child  to  take  the  survey,  but  rather                                                                    
     because of apathy, oversight, or student error.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  will change  the current practice  of active                                                                    
     permission  to passive  permission so  that the  parent                                                                    
     has  the  option to  deny  permission  rather than  the                                                                    
     requirement  to  provide   written  permission.    Many                                                                    
     schools  are  unable  to  use  the  data  they  collect                                                                    
     because there's  not enough participants.   The overall                                                                    
     statewide  response  rate  to   YRBS  in  2005  was  55                                                                    
     percent, which did not meet  the required response rate                                                                    
     of 60  percent to make  it a  valid survey.   The state                                                                    
     was unable to use the  data or publish the report since                                                                    
     the  data  would  not be  representative  of  the  high                                                                    
     school population.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  will address the concerns  about making sure                                                                    
     that  parents understand  the content  of the  surveys.                                                                    
     We've changed the bill, primarily  for the chairman, so                                                                    
     that it  clearly defines what the  written notification                                                                    
     must   include:     the  date   the   survey  will   be                                                                    
     administered,  description   of  the  content   of  the                                                                    
     survey,  the sponsor  of  the survey,  and  a point  of                                                                    
     contact in the school district for the survey.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL directed  attention to  page  1 of  Version O  and                                                               
pointed out  that the legislation  still requires  active consent                                                               
for everything  except subsection (g)  [located on page  2, lines                                                               
20-25], which  speaks specifically  to the  YRBS.   Chair Coghill                                                               
related  that he  intends on  voting  against HB  207 because  he                                                               
doesn't believe that  apathy is the reason  parents don't provide                                                               
consent  for the  surveys.   He opined  that some  parents simply                                                               
disagree with  the survey, as  is the case  with his family.   He                                                               
attributed the questions dealing  with sexual orientation as well                                                               
as other  leading questions  dealing with sex  as the  reason the                                                               
survey  is opposed.   With  all the  criteria added  into Section                                                               
2(d), he  said he  is willing  to allow  the legislation  to move                                                               
forward from this  committee.  If this  legislation addressed all                                                               
surveys, he said he would  strongly argue against it and wouldn't                                                               
let it be forwarded out of committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  asked if  the YRBS targets  a specific                                                               
age group.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON deferred to Dr. Butler.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:14:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY  BUTLER,   M.D.,  Chief  Medical   Officer,  Office   of  the                                                               
Commissioner,   Department  of   Health   and  Social   Services,                                                               
explained  that  there are  two  components  to  the YRBS.    The                                                               
component that's  primarily used is  for high school  students in                                                               
grades  9-12.   While  there  is a  middle  school component  for                                                               
grades 7-8, it hasn't been used in recent years.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:15:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATTY  OWEN,   YRBS  Coordinator,  Division  of   Public  Health,                                                               
Department  of Health  and Social  Services,  confirmed that  the                                                               
standard survey is  for grades 9-12, which  has been administered                                                               
in recent  years and used nationally.   There is a  middle school                                                               
instrument  that hasn't  been administered  since  1995 when  the                                                               
program  first  started.   However,  local  school districts  are                                                               
allowed the option  to use that survey instrument,  which is half                                                               
the length of the high school survey, for grades 7-8.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:16:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  inquired as why  one survey has  been administered                                                               
and not the other.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OWEN explained  that [the  department] conducts  a statewide                                                               
survey,  which is  the high  school survey,  and a  random sample                                                               
from among all the high schools in  Alaska.  At the same time, as                                                               
an added  incentive, school districts  are offered the  option to                                                               
conduct the survey at the same  time in order to have information                                                               
specific to the district.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:17:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  inquired as  to which survey  is included                                                               
in the committee packet.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN confirmed that it's the high school survey.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  then pointed out that  the first question                                                               
of  the survey  is regarding  whether the  age of  the individual                                                               
taking the survey is 12 years of age or younger.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN  surmised that there have  been mixed ages in  some high                                                               
schools,  although  she  said  she wasn't  sure  how  that  would                                                               
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:18:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH highlighted  that  the YRBS  addresses                                                               
violence,  suicide, tobacco,  alcohol,  drugs,  and body  weight.                                                               
Out  of 87  questions  only 7  relate to  sexual  behavior.   She                                                               
opined  that the  survey attempts  to address  the health  of the                                                               
population.   Representative  Fairclough inquired  as to  whether                                                               
the reference to "a youth risk  behavior survey" on page 2, lines                                                               
20-21, should  be capitalized  to refer to  a specific  survey or                                                               
whether  the lower  case allows  flexibility with  regard to  any                                                               
survey  from the  CDC.   If  it should  be  capitalized she  also                                                               
suggested the need to change the "a" to "the".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OWEN related  that to  her knowledge  the YRBS  is the  only                                                               
youth risk  standardized survey.   In further response,  Ms. Owen                                                               
indicated that  "a youth risk  behavior survey" on page  2, lines                                                               
20-21, should be capitalized.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:20:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  inquired as  to any  funding mechanism                                                               
that may be tied to this particular survey.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN  responded that the  chronic disease  prevention grants,                                                               
particularly  tobacco prevention,  rely on  the data  gathered by                                                               
the YRBS  as do other  programs, such as  the safe and  drug free                                                               
schools,  in order  to measure  the  impact of  the programs  and                                                               
alert as to the magnitude of the health problems.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON interjected  that  even the  Boys &  Girls                                                               
Club  utilize  the  data  to  know  on  which  issues  to  focus.                                                               
Furthermore, nonprofits can't obtain  grants unless there is data                                                               
to illustrate the success of the program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN related  that typically 18-20 districts  conduct a local                                                               
survey, of  which about  half were able  to collect  local survey                                                               
data this year.   She emphasized that it  helps those communities                                                               
when the  state has reliable  state data at  the same time  as it                                                               
affords the school district the ability to compare the data.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:23:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL, recalling his time  sitting on the Health & Social                                                               
Services Finance  Subcommittee, commented  that there's  no doubt                                                               
that [the department]  relies on this information.   He mentioned                                                               
that he has sought ways  in which parents are involved, including                                                               
an absolute barrier to the  survey unless the parents have chosen                                                               
to [provide consent].   Chair Coghill related  his preference for                                                               
the parental right over the school's right.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:24:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS  opined that he didn't  believe an average                                                               
18-year-old  boy  would  answer  these questions  honestly  in  a                                                               
classroom setting with peers nearby in the room.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN related that [the  department] does believe that for the                                                               
most part students provide honest  answers.  There are checks and                                                               
balances  in  place, such  as  assurances  of anonymity  and  the                                                               
protection of  privacy to  the students  by spreading  chairs and                                                               
placing the  answer sheets, without  any identifiers,  in privacy                                                               
sleeves.   Furthermore, the CDC has  performed validation studies                                                               
that illustrate that for the most  part students are honest.  She                                                               
then  informed  the committee  that  the  computer performs  edit                                                               
checks   to   look   for  inconsistencies   in   answers.      If                                                               
inconsistencies are  found, the survey  is thrown out.   Ms. Owen                                                               
pointed out  that when  Alaska compares  its results  to national                                                               
results, the results are very similar.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SAMUELS remarked  that 18-year-old  boys are  the                                                               
same the world over.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:27:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON related his  understanding that the change                                                               
proposed in HB 207 is  necessary because school districts haven't                                                               
had enough approval slips returned to perform the survey.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN  answered that many  approval slips are  being returned,                                                               
but not all.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON inquired as to  why the proposal in HB 207                                                               
will be more successful than current practices.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWEN related that currently  two week's notice is given, even                                                               
if parental  notice was signed earlier  in the school year.   The                                                               
notice  of the  survey is  being  put forth  in various  manners,                                                               
including  public notice  and notice  in newsletters.   She  said                                                               
that to have  the signed permissions returned to  the district is                                                               
a  burden to  the  district.   The  department  is attempting  to                                                               
protect  the  time  of district  personnel  chasing  the  consent                                                               
forms.   Ms.  Owen explained  that although  the majority  of the                                                               
consent forms aren't returned, the  percentage not being returned                                                               
is just under the target  for Alaska.  The aforementioned coupled                                                               
with student absentee  rates and that schools don't  want to take                                                               
a second  class period  for students to  makeup the  survey means                                                               
that  every percent  counts  in the  ability  to have  reportable                                                               
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:29:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  reiterated his earlier question  regarding whether                                                               
the school is present for the  parent and child or are the parent                                                               
and child  there for the  school.  However, he  acknowledged that                                                               
some important information can be gleaned from the survey data.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:29:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FAIRCLOUGH  moved   that  the   committee  adopt                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 1, as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 20, following "of":                                                                                           
          Delete "a"                                                                                                            
          Insert "the"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 20-12:                                                                                                       
          Delete "youth risk behavior survey"                                                                                   
          Insert "Youth Risk Behavior Survey"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:31:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRIS  moved to  report  CSHB  207, Version  25-                                                               
LS0680\O,  Mischel, 3/26/08,  as amended,  out of  committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection,  CSHB 207(RLS)  was reported  from the                                                               
House Rules Standing Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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